Wild Apples of Kazakhstan

The natural wild apple of Kazakhstan, from which all other apples in the world are descended, is under threat of extinction. Check back soon for report . . . . 

                                      


We thought it might be a good idea to grow some of these apples on our site. I wrote to ex-HDRA and was given the following information by Bob Sherman:

I am well aware of the situation in Kazhakstan. The original fruit forest is a fraction of what it once was. I have also had the opportunity as a member of the RHS Fruit Group to hear Barrie Juniper talking about the forests and his trip there with Prof Mabberley in preparation for writing his book 'The Story of the Apple'.
Principal amongst the campaigners and experts are Nigel Maxted, Shelagh Kell and Brian Ford-Lloyd of Birmingham University, with whom we work quite closely at times. Reading University now have curatorship of the National Fruuit Collection at Brogdale and they too have a clear interest in this situation.
Garden Organic is not in a position to take up a campaign on this issue. It is outside our charitable aims and we simply do not have the resources to manage another campaign. We would, however, add our support to any international effort to save this unique resource.
     I think it would be a good idea to contact Brogdale. You might also like to contact Nigel Maxted (n.maxted@bham.ac.uk) or Brian Ford-Lloyd (b.ford-lloyd@bham.ac.uk), as they will give you an overview of work going on to press for better conservation of crop wild relatives. You might also get in touch with Barrie Juniper, who, I believe, has established a planting at Oxford University of wild Malus spp., sieversii and others.

15 Feb. I have now contacted four of these people by email. I await replies. This is what I said:

Dear  . . . . .
 I was given your email by Bob Sherman of Garden Organic so I hope you do not mind my writing to you.
 I read about the wild apples of Kazakhstan and as I am setting up a new organic garden for some people here, and they are very environmentally aware, I wondered if you feel it useful for people here to grow these trees, and if you have any kind of scheme set up for this?
If we could make a feature of this we could spread information - the garden is on a well-trodden walking route alongside the Leeds-Liverpool canal. You can find information on what we will be doing on my website 

Phone call from Nigel Maxted Tues 16 Feb

Nigel said that they are not allowed to take the wild apples out of K as they are a protected species. But that what they are doing is encouraging growers here to grow the apples that are and always have been traditional to their area. He said Brogdale would be able to advise which were the local apples for our area. and that they could probably put us in touch with a grower who has them. I said that will be real nice! And a great talking point for all the walkers we get, who are interested in what we do. As I have already emailed Brogdale I will wait for their reply before going further.

 

Actually Adam's Apples can recommend apples for your specific area, climate and soil type, and supply ten trees for £70. Nigel did not seem keen when I mentioned them, so we will see what Brogdale come up with and how their prices compare. I emailed them today specifically on this, since they did not answer the first email.


Reply from Derek Rye at Brogdale Sunday 21 Feb

 

Derek  Rye
Fruit helpline
Friday 2.0 - 4.30. pm
01795 536250

 

 

Hi Geraldine,
There is not exactly a scheme relating to older varieties but the Grow at Brogdale plant centre like its predecessor here can graft most of the apples from the collection.  Alternatively graft wood can be bought and grafted onto a suitable rootstock which can be supplied by the plant centre.  The Grafted trees will cost around £45 pounds and take a year to produce.  www.brogdaleonline.co.uk  01795 531888.

Your position will dictate what may be possible and you seem to be at around 500ft altitude which is over what is considered suitable for apples as the season is shorter.  We do hear from people trying at over 600ft though.  There are many apples available for the north and frostier areas in any case.  The problem is with the shorter season due to later start and earlier end the build up of sugars in fruit may be poor.  This can be seen in the list of apples oroginating in Lancashire of which most are cookers. The origin of varieties is not really the same as what was grown as that would have depended on what the nurseries were suppplying. 

 

Of the 9 LANCASHIRE originating varieties the best known is the Keswick Codlin.

C = cooker CD = Dual purpose.  They are:-
Duke of Devonshire 

Golden Spire (C)

Gold Medal

Harvest Festival C)  

John Huggett (CD)
Keswick Codlin (C)

Potts Seedling (C)

Proctor's Seedling

Sowman's Seedling (C).

Yorkshire originating varieties include the famous Ribston Pippin and New Best Pool. both dessert varieties. The list for YORKSHIRE    is :-

Acklam Russet

Cockpit (C)

Fillingham Pippin

Flower of the Town

New Best Pool

Ribston Pippin

Sharleston Pippin

Yorkshire Greening (C).

To read about these search at  www.nationalfruitcollection.org.uk   where there are usually photos also. Also try www.keepers-nursery.co.uk which has the more commonly grown varieties but a great many with pollination times etc. Yorkshire of course has the R V Rogers Nursery at Pickering with which I am less familiar.

You are invited to join the Friends of the National Fruit Collections at Brogdale by going to Joan Morgan's website.  Membership is free as newsletters are sent by email.  The site also has a Blog where questions on fruit can be posted and commented on.
Useful links http://oxfordpomona.blogspot.com      www.orangepippin.com

 


 

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